a friend and i were talking, "... a bj is not a bj unless you cum ..." and ... "you can't count it a fuck, until you cum" i say it all counts. what's your vote?

I`m with you.
It all counts !

Have to agree, cumming is the key. And, the harder you cum, the better.

It all counts.

Is this friend's last name Clinton by chance?? lol, to me, it all counts - if you are stimulating someone sexually, its sex. Sucking a cock is a bj, whether you cum or not. Just my opinion.

thank you for your opinions! my friend still says that the act of the "cum" is key!

I agree w/ Neil n ur friend the original purpose of a Bj is for the receiver to cum n cum - hard in their mouth seem to change w/ sexy bttms n women who want the cock really hard when mounting them-wanting the cock to drop his load deep in them.

I think it depends on who I'm trying to justify my actions to. Ask your friend if his wife catches him sucking your cock, but you haven't cum yet, if she'll accept that definition. He-he...Let me know how it works out...he-he-he